I could not understand where Raj Thackeray & his Marathi Manoos Ideology vanished at the Mumbai terror attacks. Going by the unprecedented violence showered by the MNS Camp last month on North Indians, this so called Marathi saviours should had stormed both the Taj & the Oberoi to protect the innocent man. Or atleast should have been available to help the innocent people and the commandos, who risked their lives to save the lives of Marathi Manoos. Instead of showing goondism on innocent North Indians they should had vested their energy into something constructive which can really make them proud & distinguished among the rest.
Why doesn’t Raj Thackeray protested against NSG Commandos in which majority of the Guards were North Indian Manoos?
All the black cat commandoes hailed from North India, Why did he allow north indian NSG commandos to come to Mumbai soil & allowed them to combat the terror attacks? MNS should have fought the terrorists. Raj Thackeray can only harass common people in wake of cheap politics, but when there is a deeper trouble like terrorism he will surely hide into some safe area to stay away from limelight. Why can’t this protectors of localities can’t save their own Mumbai in gutting into fires for past 3 days. At the time when Mumbai was in crisis why does to chooses to be in hibernation.
Raj Thackeray considers himself to be the benefactor of the local Marathi population (Marathi Manoos). When Mumbai really needs them, they all have gone into hiding. When required to stand up to the face of the terror, the Raj Thackeray battalion is mum. This is really shocking.
Mr. Raj Thackeray (saviour of Maratha pride) where were u during all this period? Why didn’t you & your brave soldiers (goons) come to fight these terrorists. Your Heroic fight in fighting against the terrorist would had definitely made you as the Super Star but unfortunately you choose to act like a mute spectator. When Mumbai is in trouble, when Mumbai is calling its son of the soils, why Raj Thackeray is acting like a coward? My dear friends its true that Raj Thackeray is a politician with his own selfish interests. His sole motives are electoral gain and CM chair. He does not give a damn about the Marathi people.
These politicians are the biggest enemies, even bigger than the terrorists. The need of the hour is to be united as Hindus and Muslims and not give into the wishes of these terrorists by blaming each other and being disunited.
All the leaders, they be of any party, who speak in terms of religion and ask for separate favours for any specific caste whether north Indian or Marathi Manoos, should be criminally tried for spreading apartherd in India. For India to be truly secular, all Indians , irrespective of their birth related caste or creed or sex and whatsoever, should be equal under the law of the land . There are many countries in the world where no religion has any importance. It is only our ugly Politicians who for vote bank are dividing India on the basis of religion and spreading the slow poison of hatred among the people. IT IS THE POLITICIANS WHO ARE THE ENEMIES OF INDIA.
Finally i want to ask Raj Thackeray about his whereabout & where is his Marathi Pride gone. why doesn’t he come in front of the terrorists to save Mumbai?
raj thakre did not go newhr….he wass derr….i can show u pics ,,,of MNS ppl givinn help to da injured 1,,,juss temme whr to post da photos
Nuts this Rajeev. Says NDTV is a neutral channel, biggest joke of the century. And for your knowledge abt Marathi manoos, I hope you heard of Appasaheb Garware, Annasaheb Kirloskar (both need no mention), Vikhe Patil (Sugar Baron), Raghuveer Despande (Most successful Indian IT Co. in US) and Sachin & Lata & Asha & Gavaskar & Vengsarkar & Tilak & V. Shantaram & Dadasaheb Phalke & many more.
I am Rajeev,
I feel like 45 ninjas,
May I kindly point, Its 2008 Sumit sir.
Rajeev
All the world is politicially motivated and its you and some Hemant are correct with your views. With Mumbaikars like you lunatic netas Like Raj gets so much power to speak. Perhaps not your fault, you all still live in the 19th century and do not have guts to face the competition.
Further I m not here to promote Bhaiya or Behna bullshit what these bloody selfish netas promote for no reason. I was finding myself where was raj thackeray when mumbai was under some attack. I think the writer was very soft by asking that. If I had to ask raj I would say that there is no difference between terrorists and raj thackeray. infact raj drama left riots in the cities for 2-3 days and killed so many inncoent people. He and his party members should be punished.
He can do drama on the streets of mumbai about marathi rights, he can cut the cake having Bhaiya written on it, but shame that Bhaiya stood on the CST station when all his marathi bhaiya ran away from there
Thats just illatrate bull spread by a politically motivated 11th fail, bhaya press. I swear I saw that bhaya guard at CST running for his life and am pretty sure I wasn’t drunk then.
Heres a Mumbai police cop in plane clothes being shot down at CST after he takes a shot at them
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=LO4ZK3jKj_k&feature=related
Another cop Shashank Shinde, also took a shot at them and also was killed in the gunfire. I don’t see his name on the front page …. instead I see a bhaiya who ran for his life being decorated because he is a bhaiya
Also the terrorists were gunned down, and didn’t die of a stroke as the politically motivated press would like you to believe.
Start watching more neutral channels like NDTV, you will get a feel of reality
Ninad the point I guess is Raj Thackeray was the person who was creating issues about being a saviour of Maharashtra. There was no trace of him and his party works on the second day atleast of the attack. And after the attacks also, shouldnt he and his party come out and urge the govt. for more security etc and atleast applaud all the NSG and Police who helped get terror out.
He can do drama on the streets of mumbai about marathi rights, he can cut the cake having Bhaiya written on it, but shame that Bhaiya stood on the CST station when all his marathi bhai ran away from there.
The question the writer has put is, should all these be allowed in the future?
And further Mulayam is the biggest traitor – He said to have told one news channel, I have no issues against SIMI. WHAT A BIG CRIMINAl he is! What answer does he haves when all the links of bomb blasts in other parts of the country is linked to SIMI. He himself has a band of NSG protecting him so he can say such words, else gand phat jaati!
And what happened yesterday in Mumbai was another big joke – Ex Shiv Sena Rane started going beserk – because he did not get the CM chair. He even did not show respect to the party he belonged. If he is that loyal to his party we can expect the worst from him as a CM.
I don’t see any point why Mr. Raj Thakre should be asked such questions now. He’s not a superhero, he’s not even a minister. Let me first know what did our dear PM, CM and other political leaders including maulana Mualayam and Shree Neetish Kumar did for victims. Only Lalu ji offered jobs and Modi ji offered monetory help, but mind you, they are representing the Indian railways and Gujarat state respectively. Not a single penny has come from their own pockets. I appreciate dhoni in that sense because he’s donating his salary and has urged other players to do so. When Mumbai was burning, our so called elite media personnel Burkha Dutt and Pranab Roy were reading out SMS spreading hatred about marathi people. It was so uncalled for. The SMS said NSG force did not have a single marathi commando and what not. If you’re a sensible person you’d have condemned this SMS right away but instead you restrict yourself to Raj bashing no matter what.
This attack has shown how much degraded our media and politicians are. Instead of unifying and fighting against terrorism, political parties made this attack a political issue which hurt me more than anything. Media personnel took this attack as an event and reported in a completely filmy style setting aside all norms of sensible journalism. Security and media agencies all over the world are laughing at us.We did not have any plan at all and what YOU guys want to do is to blame Raj for evey bad thing happened. He, perhaps is the only sensible politician not plunging into political campaign at this time and making his party work silently to help mumbaikars recover from such a terrible shock.
PS: media channels are so pervert that they modify many things. I have seen reputed channels reporting false news. Having a reasonable command on marathi as well as english I can say that what Raj Thakrey says in marathi is sometimes quite different than what is told by the Indian-English media. e.g. Raj never opposed Chhath pooja but stated strongly that no one should make it a political event. Everyone knows the rest.
Jai Hind, Jai Maharashtra.
Hi I’m suicidal, I come from a very wealthy state called…….
Well I dont believe in divisional politics but what the hell !.Its just annoying when ants nibble at you…..
Don’t blame Pakistan or the terrorist. They had the courage and pride to inflict damage to a country they believe is there enemy
>>Are you from India more importantly.
They have negligible contribution towards the growth of Mumbai
>>I would like to believe you here,however if Tata has his flag ship enterprise in bihar then where is bihar any ways?
and if you like it so much then why not migrate there
Maharashtrains were here before the Tatas, Marus,Parsis ….
Maharashtrians are also very honest and upright unlike corrupt north Indians , See what they have made of Delhi…corruption every where!.Hell even their taxis run without meters
JUST TO SHOW YOU WHY MUMBAI IS WHAT IT IS IS ONLY DUE THE MAHARASHTRIANS IN THE CITY. MAHARASHTRA HAPPENS TO BE THE RICHEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY …OHH AND JUST TO CLARIFY THATS IRRESPECTIVE OF MUMBAI BEING A PART OF IT.Remove it and Maharashtra is still the richest!.So that proves that Mumbai is made by the Marathis. Now comming back to Bihar….the state , if I can call it that, wouldn’t survive one day without the central goverments grants.Maybe thats where all the patriotism comes from, but then again Pakistan are better….have my doubts
1.) WEAK & CORRUPT POLICE:- 14 maharastrian policeman died without killing a single terrorist !!!
>>Yes yes, those terrorists died of a heart stroke.
I’m gonna stop here dont want to insult Biharis for no reason,havent really got anything against them afterall….just tell me who are you and we can settle this in a giffy, I’ll take up your very same post and we will see how it goes
Rajeev? Are you from Mumbai, would be my first question
Marathi Manoos – A parasite on Indian Society
Don’t blame Pakistan or the terrorist. They had the courage and pride to inflict damage to a country they believe is there enemy. We have to blame so called Indians like the Thackeray’s and the people who follow them (Marathi Manoos) who are making our society weak. These people unlike the rest of India have never had to struggle and have lived off the wealth created by outsiders. They have negligible contribution towards the growth of Mumbai which was created by outsiders who believed in national pride, hope, hard work and continuous struggle for progress. Mumbai was created by British, Gujaratis, Marwadis, Parsis and companies like TATA’s whose wealth came from their flagship company “Tata Steel†in Bihar. In fact most of these people don’t know or care about Indian History, have never stepped outside Maharastra and are not aware that Mumbai wasn’t even a part of Maharashtra. It was part of Gujarat before and the population of marathis in Mumbai was negligible before independence (http://www.mumbaispace.com/cityinfo/history.htm).
Lack of enterprise, ethics, courage and hard work has resulted in a society which demonstrates incompetence in every area and has the potential to adversely effect the Nations growth and prosperity. Some of these examples amply demonstrate this:-
1.) WEAK & CORRUPT POLICE:- 14 maharastrian policeman died without killing a single terrorist !!! This is because it is more of political force then a law enforcer. Why do they have fancy names likes ATS when they can’t protect themselves, leave alone protecting others, thier jeeps get hijacked by terrorist!! In fact at CST when a brave photographer (Anil Singh – who shot the photographs of the terrorists) informed armed policemen about the terrorists , they ran away. Inspite of all this we make these people National heroes and people like Sharmila the wife of Raj Thackeray sends SMSs glamorizing the non existent contribution of marathis in saving the city by stating that all policemen killed in Mumbai were Marathis.
2) WEAK & CORRUPT POLITICIANS:- Pratibha patil – our president Mrs. Pratibha Patil – the cosmetic head of state? So much has happened. Mumbai and India was attacked and at war and Mrs. Patil was not to be seen anywhere? Why? Shivraj Patil – The worst home minister ever seen , he was more bothered about his dressing then the terrorist attacks on India. RR Patil – Mr Patil spoke and behaved as if he was featuring in a pulp Bollywood movie, during the 60-hour-long terror attack and its aftermath, with irresponsible sound-bytes serving as dialogues,†Clown, what happened to your statement “goli ka jawab goli se doongiâ€? Vilasrao Deshmukh , and the list goes on
3) LACK OF ENTERPRISE:- Inspite of all the opputunities available you sont have a single Industralist from the state who has been able to create jobs at a mass level. There are many parts in Maharastra where shop keepers close from 12 noon to 4 in the evening and treat customers as if they are doing a favour by selling to them, when outsiders are more successful in competing with these incapable people they are beaten up. In most organisations in Maharastra the most incompetent people are generally the Marathi Manoos who were hired because they were easily available and are able to retain there jobs because of the support from local politicians.
This is not a simple problem. A weak society influenced by paranoid cowards, completely detached from reality, confused and megalomaniacs like Raj Thackeray has the potential to completely destroy the country to take india to fragmented pre-1947 india , which was a period of intense repression from foreign forces where we saw large scale genocides, large scale destruction of hindu temples and blatant conversion of temples into mosques.
@ Hemant
If any of the minister resigns or dies, its of no use now. The damage is already done and now its time we rectify our errors and see to it that these things doesn’t occur in future.
You say that Mumbai Police is great before NSG. I say both are incompetent. If Mumbai Police were strong enough then there was no need of NSG during that time. If Mumbai Police were given all the aid and authorities then they could have single handedly killed all the terrorists. But they aren’t. If the Police were given the right weapons, the right skills to tackle such situations they could have. But if a policeman wishes to enter the Taj using his own strategy and kill the terrorist he wont be able to coz he will have to get permissions from the higher officials, and they in turn with ministers. The police man will be humiliated in India saying what he is thinking is stupid and he will be made to do as they say. ultimately its victory for the terrorists to continue their riots.
I say every police man in this country should be treated like god because it is they who are saving and protecting us but we fear them why, because today most of them are udder the influence of ministers and corrupted.
Sorry to say but neither police nor NSG, nor Army, no one is competent in India…
The home minister of the country resigns home minister for state resigns chief minister resigns by that logic the Prime minister should resign.Remember these were the same people who supported the killing of another terroist in a BEST bus who happened to be a bhaya
Also the NSG which walked in the following morning were late and come under the direct control of the PM’s office so he should resign.
All this happens and Ministers who have a moral responsibility have to resign. But the Mumbai police commissioner who has direct responcilibity of the matter stays put and no one has even asked for his resignation
And Lalu he’s the railway minister right? Well there was a massacre at CST. He didn’t provide adequate security for its commuters how come he hasn’t resigned?
Hemant Karkare, Ashok Kamte and Vijay Salaskaran and the rest of the policemen who died that night were all Maharashtrians irrespective of what YOU think.Even the firemen who went around extinguishing fiers set ablaze by the NSG, under fire were Maharashtrians.And may I remind you thats not even part of their job discription.For Mumbai it was the Mumbai police that saved them.The NSG saved TAJ.
Heres a quick recap:
The real heroes of the hour were the Mumbai police,
1)who shot down most of the terrorists in three hrs the the NSG could kill in three days.
2)Faced them with no body armor and antique (.303 although am sure on the model)rifles.While the NSG had their choice of arms right from helicopters to grenade launchers automatic and heavy machine guns. And in the given environment could and did use all of them , unlike in a crowded railway station
3)Protected the citizens when the needed it most,and prevented the death toll from reaching 5000.At the rate at which the NSG operated it would have gone to 50000
4)prevented more civilians from dying,While all that the NSG did was a mop up operation of a situation that was already quarantined for them.A quarantined terrorist is as good as a dead one. After all there is no where else to go.
5)Had the max number of casulties and still fought on under fire.
6) stood in line when people needed them the most.
7)combated the terrorists in a volatile environment,with civilians around, unlike the NSG which combated them in a controlled environment, with no where to run and just dead walls to hit.
8)Fell in the line of fire when they could have simply waited for the ‘Heroes of the day” to save us
Officers like Mr Hemant Karkare and others, are hard to find any where in the world.They spearheaded the operationand instead of making it a defensive one turned it into a pro active one and took the fight to the terrorists.Unlike the NSG which was defensive throughout
I think its outrageous to call the NSG the guys who saved the day,simply because there was no one left to save.Its just std. protocol that prevented the Mumbai police from finishing their job.
I’m not trying to underplay the role of the NSG here, just feel strongly that it was the Mumbai police who saved Mumbaikars at the end of the day, ant it was sheer bravery and courage of the Mumbai police that saved the city
Spare me the pseudo secularistic diarrhea,you are spreading the same divisional politics that Raj thackeray does just with a mask on.You are trying to feel good and get political milage about a terror situation that Mumbai faced.In esence you are just
mocking us AND ITS NOT FUNNY!.Where does Raj Takhray fit into all this.Hes not a terroist, not a policiman, not in the army,hell as a politician hes not even in power!
AND YOU ARE NO BETTER THEN HIM
No one in India is forced to speak any particular language or vernacular. If you really want to get a good job, get the proper education & capability. If you can’t afford it, go in for what you can afford, not hijack some accomplished person’s job through force, nepotism, regionalism, political contacts, reservations, etc., etc.. One of the first promoters of reservation (in independent India), died recently, and hardly anyone noticed. This speaks amply for opportunists, even though they may occupy the topmost posts in the Government. The bluff that Raj Thackerey tried to put up, has failed miserably. I hope he has been humbled and will not indulge in petty politics. I think everyone should have access to a gun, if the person has not been charged or convicted of any serious crime (criminal). Raj has been charged and if he has an Arms licence, it should be suspended and his weapon (if any) should be confiscated and released when he is found innocent of the crime that he was accused of. Bharat Mata Ki Jai!! & Jai Maharashtra!! (and all other states of India)!!!
Hi,
I think the regionalism in India is nothing new, it started when they started creating states on linguistic basis. Although Thackray is scoring a point and gaining some political mileage in Marathi Manoon cause; on a long run it is going to be a issue. He will not be elected anywhere outside Maharashtra. But, for the issue of local people getting the first shot at a low level job that is good. My reason is simple- if a low skilled person with little or no money cannot find some work locally, he is becoming unemployed. Now either there should be a way to support him and train him, or let him have a first shot at the job. I also think in the name of being Indian we Marathi’s should not be forced to speak Hindi. Hindi is for hindi states, others states have the local language. People in places like Kolkota and Chennai prefer their own language; I think that is why we are different states and not one whole state of India.
As for the question where Raj and MNS is when Mumbai needs them; please do not encourage these people to get guns; we have enough trouble already. If tomorrow the MNS and its members gets guns for themselves, we are doomed.
Bharat Mata Ki Jai!! & Jai Maharashtra!!